Whitstable Tidings Issue 11 2014

The monthly journal of Whitstable and Seasalter Golf Club
Collingwood Road, Whitstable, Kent, CT5 1EB Tel 01227 272020
e-mail secretary@whitstable-golfclub.co.uk
Web site www.whitstable-golfclub.co.uk
Issue no.11 Volume 3 1St November 2014

Editor Bob Ireland, 01227 638425, 07802874914,robert.ireland@gmail.com

Captain’s Farewell Andy Sargeant
I can’t tell you how difficult it is to describe how sad I am to be finishing my captain’s year. 
When I have had so many good memories to take from this year. 
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all those who helped make 2014 such an exciting and eventful year for me. Way back in November 2013, the year got off to great start with a most enjoyable Drive-in day and ever since then I have been on this wonderful (I going to have to mention the J word) journey. Then came December with the children’s and adults Christmas party, my first New Year’s Eve party at the club. I missed Burns night due to work commitments. The Old Salts Dinner-what a honour to be invited and seeing some of the members who used to play golf with my father. I could go on and on about the social side to this club which is fantastic with race nights, quiz nights, golf week, captains day, evenings of entertainment, captains charity day and, of course, the inter club matches and ending on a high with the Dinner and Dance, I hope I have covered off all the events, so I am going to stop now.
A special thank you to Linda, the Ladies Captain, George, the Old Salts Captain, Jack Tucker, the Junior’s Captain and a big thank you to Ted Henderson, my vice captain, who I cannot thank enough for making my year run so smoothly and I wish you all the luck for next year. I know you will do a great job and I hope you enjoy the year as much as I have.
Finally thanks to all members for there kind and generous contribution to our charity this year. When the four service men turned up on Captain’s Day to represent the On Course Charity and see how the members welcomed them it made me feel honoured to have been asked to represent this club as your Captain.
Membership Raffle
Now in the clubhouse, buy a ticket for the price in pence of the number drawn and win £100 PLUS A YEAR’S MEMBERSHIP! What a prize! You’ll be glad to know that the 500 ticket has already been drawn by me so it is all downhill from here.

Volunteers required AGM Minuting Secretary.

A member prepared to take notes at the annual general meetings and prepare the minutes afterwards in conjunction with the secretary. if we cannot get a volunteer we would have to advertise and pay someone – and perhaps extend this to include board and committee meetings.
we need a club secretary to take my place when I retire next year. Literacy and computer knowledge are essentials, coupled with a good sense of humour and a thick skin! The office needs to be manned at least 3 mornings per week and there are various morning and evening meetings to attend. An honorarium is paid and club membership is free.
Most golf clubs now employ a (much younger) club manager these days, rather than a voluntary secretary, and, if we do not get a suitable volunteer, we may have to consider this option, with of course the potential impact on subscriptions.
Brian Best August 2014
Club Secretary


A Pay As You Go mobile phone has been provided behind the Bar – for emergency use only. The Telephone No. is :-

0778 4498061
Would all members enter this number on their mobiles for future emergency use

Like most Golf Clubs we are always looking for new Members to replace those who move away or just get too old to play. Our average age is higher than most clubs, which has its effect on our membership.
We will therefore be advertising again this year from March onwards and our new Membership Director Richard Gremo is currently considering our advertising campaign with our President Michael Behr. If anyone has any ideas please contact either of them – they will be pleased to hear from you.
We will also be offering a £50 Incentive to existing Members who introduce new Full Playing Members to the Club. Full details will be available soon – the incentive will be by way of a discount from the next year’s subscription. There will be no limit to the number of incentives, which can be earned in any year. So introduce 10 Members for a free year!

Greens Committee Meeting Notes

Present; Malcolm Kent, Steve Suttle, Seth Divine, Brian Best, John Rosser
(Copy to Captain)
Apologies;. None.
Matters arising;
Dead trees between 5th and 7th fairways have been removed.
Ongoing Work
The land to the rear of the houses along the 8th fairway has been cut. There is an amount of rubbish and building supplies that will be removed to allow the grass to be cut. Any resident thought to be placing rubbish on our land will be reported for fly tipping.
The work on the new bunker will continue with soil being obtained to dress the sides before the membrane and sand are added. Turf will be purchased to complete the bunker as well as repair the oil spill on the 5th.
The turf immediately to the rear of the 8th will be removed and replaced with fine grasses. The removed turf will help improve the area approaching the 5th green on the left. The mound to the left of the front of the 5th green will be sculptured to improve.
There are concerns regarding tree roots around the 4th/8th/9th tees. This will be addressed in the winter.
All machinery is working well but as usual there are concerns over its age. Replacement machinery is always on the agenda depending on cost.
Great exception was taken to a paragraph (repeated below) from the ladies section of the Tidings. Following maintenance week members should expect different conditions. We do not dress heavily and greens are not normally bumpy.
“The ladies returned to the course after a short break for essential course maintenance to play a stableford competition. Putting was made even more difficult than normal by the heavily-dressed and bumpy greens.”
We have a very serious complaint about a member from Seth Devine. This will be dealt with in due course by the membership com/Directors.

Next meeting will be arranged at a later date.

Forthcoming Events

Wine and Wisdom 1st November 2014.
At the time of publication this event had happened and I am pleased to report that around 100 members and ringers had a great night, questions were provided by The Captain neatly showing his sadistic side as a farewell gift to the club! The questions were varied, obtuse and difficult but very enjoyable, nice nibbles from Tony Love. The winners were Stuart Browns group on Table 10 well done to them.
Captain’s Farewell Party 7th November
This is the last social function for Linda and Andy, the night will cost £5 per person and food is provided by the Captains, entertainment by Kelly Pepper, it promises to be another great night, so don’t miss it let’s give them both a terrific send off, they deserve it!

Junior Section Captain Jack Tucker, Vice Captain Marika Rapley
No report for October at time of publication
Ladies Section Captain Linda Bawden, Vice Captain Beryl Wingrove
Secretary Jean Hudson
The first ladies competition of the month was a Waltz competition, played in very soggy conditions. Teams of three were drawn out of a hat and played a stableford competition where one score counted for the team on the first hole, 2 scores on the second and all three on the third. This pattern was then repeated for the rest of the round. There was a little bit of drizzle during the morning but it was mostly dry, and all the temporary greens of the previous day had been removed. A gaggle of geese kept doing a fly past which also made the morning more entertaining! The trio of Sheila Wyles, Vilma Parrett and Louise Tucker were victorious with a team total of 68. Beryl Wingrove, Irene Snowdon and Joan Sykes were a close second just a point behind.

Hurricane Gonzalo wreaked havoc with the monthly medal, which turned into more of an endurance test than a test of golf. It was survival of the fittest, and many of the ladies who did start their round did not complete it. We’re not going to mention the scores but well done to Jackie Witten who won and Margaret Barker and Irene Snowdon who were second and third-it cannot be said that you are fair-weather golfers!!

The ladies were comprehensively beaten in their annual match with the Old Salts, the old boys proving far too steady for us. Very well done to Tony Bensted and Jean Hudson who had the highest individual scores for their respective teams.

The Ladies Supper was an enjoyable evening as always. The food was lovely-thank you Team Tony-and the wine went down very well. Vice-Captain Beryl’s Dingbats quiz kept us entertained before, during and after the meal and Linda ably welcomed our guests from Chestfield and oversaw the prize-giving. Monies were given out for wins and places throughout the year which also brought a smile to a lot of faces!

October also saw the last Sunday Afternoon Swingers get together. The biggest field of the year turned up (20 players) for the friendly 9 hole competition. High scores were recorded-Jackie Witten, Mick Wyles and winner Marie Hood all coming in with 21 points. Many thanks to Margaret and Des Barker for organising these very successful afternoons throughout the year and particularly the very welcome fish and chip supper to round the year off.

The Christmas Competitions have now started, which culminate with prize-giving at the pink-ball Christmas lunch in early December. Slightly scarily, the festive season is fast approaching!

Men’s Section Captain Andy Sargeant, Vice Captain Ted Henderson
Roving reporter-Scoop Bates
Golf Report for Sundays – October 2014
October’s Stableford competition ended with Martyn Silverton finishing in first place with a fabulous forty-three points. Martyn started very strongly and was one under par after six holes and might have done better but for dropped shots on the relatively easy seventh and sixteenth. Neil Hackshall took second place and would have done better but for double bogies on the back nine. Lloyd Foster finished in third place with thirty-eight points ahead of Ronnie Rumball. Ronnie also with thirty-eight points lost out on count back but his score was nevertheless good enough to earn him this year’s medal winner’s cup, which was played with only four of this year’s medal winners present.
This year’s Turkey Trot got underway this month and after the first round Paul Guilfoyle is in a strong position with Brian Wild hot on his heels. Paul posted forty-one points for the first of his three rounds and has a two point cushion going in to the next round. Other players in a good position include Andy Sargeant, John Wegner, David Morgan and Lloyd Foster who each have thirty-eight points, just three shy of the front runner.

Old Salts Section Captain Ian Wingrove Vice John Wegner

The Old Salts v The Ladies took place on 6th October. A good time was had by all, the
winners being Tony Bensted and Jean Hudson. George Bawden in one of his last acts as captain donated and presented them with a prize.
Thursday, October 9th saw a friendly 9 holes played in very wet conditions followed 
by the Old Salts AGM which was well attended. Ian and John were installed as the 
new Captain and Vice Captain.
The first qualifying game in Captain Ian Wingrove’s year, a winter eclectic held on 
Thursday, October 16th unfortunately had to be changed to a non qualifying match 
due to the number of temporary greens. The heavy overnight rain had stopped by the 
time the first groups teed off and the sun shone making the rest of the mornings playa 
treat. Roger Trice was 1st on 38 points. The silent but deadly Brian Daw was 2nd on 37 
points and the ever dependable George Bawden coming 3rd with 36 points on count 
In his first outing as the Old Salts new captain Ian Wingrove accompanied by his vice 
John Wegner triumphed over Malcolm Cane and Dave Rigden beating them 3 and 1 
after a hard fought match.
A mixed team of Old Salts and the Saturday morning Dawn Patrol crew went to 
Westgate and Birchington GC and took part in The Train, a match play competition 
involving players from several clubs which is held every October and has been 
running for many years. We acquitted ourselves very well, the best results going to 
George Bawden and Trevor Coombes who won their match 4 and 3, and Mick Dunne 
and Dave Whelan from the Dawn Patrol who also won 4 and 3.
Thursday 23rd October saw the first round of Ian’s Chase. John Wegner took the 
honours with 41 points closely followed by Dave Atkins on 40 points. A well rested 
Les Cox having returned from holiday came 3rd with 38 points. Captain Ian and his
vice John beat Brian Ridley and David Kinnersley 4 and 3 in the Captain’s Challenge.
On the last Captains Challenge in October, Ian and John won 2 and 1 against Kit Ryan and Tony Bensted the highlight of the match being Johns Hole in One on the 13th.

Midweekers Section Captain Ray Thomas, Vice Captain Bob Ireland
Secretary Peter Fox

Wednesday 8th October saw the Midweekers playing for my cup, The Ray Thomas October Cup, A fine and expensive trophy! As for the Captains Challenge I didn’t finish the first hole as I have a dodgy left eye which I’m having surgery on next month,(as you can see I’m after the sympathy vote). Due to the kindness of our opponents, Peter Shearing and Ron Orford they declared it a draw to which I thought was very sportsmanlike. Even more worrying was Tony Lavenders trousers, possibly visible from the moon, but that’s another story. For the main competition, in 3rd place Tony (the trousers) Lavender on net 65, 2nd place on 64 Derek Creed and the winner on 63 Ron Orford. Birdie winners, 6/15 Roy Lee, Bernie Whitaker, Mike Moore and Mike Cousins, 4th/13th Colin Horton and John Fullagar, on the 9th Tony Lavender. Charity Sweep Winners Colin Holton, Mike Cousins and John Cook.
The highlight of the year for me is our charity night bash. This was only our second outing started by Peter Shearing last year, which went down a storm. I naturally was nervous being my night, but I had no need to worry, it turned out to be an excellent night making £700 for my charity The Pilgrims Hospice in Canterbury. Add to this £300 made in competitions throughout the year making a total of £1000. My thanks to everyone involved. The evening started with the Ukulele trio, which always gets the crowd going. Next on was our Mo singing some great standards, then Smith and Jones (Mike Cousins and Robbie Fudge) doing an excellent version of the head to head sperm bank sketch. I thought it was better than the original version, and it brought the house down. Next was the one and only Tommy Cooper. Peter was excellent as usual even though he forgot to do his spoon jar trick. I was sitting next to him last year and I couldn’t see how he made the spoon move! Interspersed with this this was our Master of Ceremonies Bob Ireland who peppered the evening with his monologues. The second half saw The Esquires, fronted by singer Don Crawford, on bass Gywn Oakley, drums Ted Backhouse, keyboards my son Stuart Thomas and myself on guitar. Although its awkward for me to say this, but it never fails to amaze me how good we really are considering this is only the second time we have played in public. From the first song till the last everyone was up dancing, and we left the crowd wanting more. So a big thank you to the band and everyone who performed making it a great evening. Let’s hope for the same next year
Well dear readers this is the last roundup for me as my captaincy has now come to an end. I’ve really enjoyed my term and a big thank you to all the Midweekers who have put up with me for the past two years. Bob Ireland is now the new kid on the block, and we wish him well as Captain and his Vice will be Ian Horton. Thanks to Peter, Bob and Eynon,
That’s All Folks
Ray Thomas
Friday 31st October Dave Rosendale’s Sorcerers Trophy Stableford
Captain’s Challenge, Thanks to Bob Daniels who stepped for an injured Ray Thomas on what would have been his final outing as Captain. We faced strong opposition from Tony love and Des Barker but we got into a lead after two holes which proved to be impossible to overcome and we finished up winning 6 and 4, much to Tony’s displeasure! Thanks Bob D for making my day and ruining Tony’s. Guest players were Ian and Beryl Wingrove next years Ladies and Old Salts Captains respectively. The winner was Tony Lavender with a fantastic 40 points due entirely to a hole in one on the 18th
Pipping Ian Horton into 2nd place on countback. Third was Doug Morton on 39 points. Birdie prizes were awarded to Ian Horton, Tony Taunton, Tony Lavender, Ryn Hudson and a bottle of scotch was given to Ian Wingrove for a birdie on the 17th. Charity sweep winners were Des Barker, Mike Harrison and Brian Harvey.
The next competition on Wednesday 12th November will also be Bob Ireland’s playing in so please come along and support him. There will be a distance raffle and nibbles for all those present.

Veteran’s Section
Captain Tony Love, Secretary Bob Ireland
October 3rd Vets Dinner, Annual Match and AGM
Congratulations are due to Barry Broadbent for his service over the last 2 years as Vets Captain, the team managed to finish third this year due in no small measure to Barry’s Captaincy as well as a good team well motivated.
The new Captain of the Vets is Tony Love and I hope he will be given the support he needs to achieve similar results in his two-year term.
On the day a good match between the Captain’s Team and The Secretary’s team was marred only by the fact that my team lost and had to buy the port! Ah well better luck next year.

Super Seventies Organiser and Captain Alec Parrett
Here is next years fixture list for the Super Seventies, if you are 70 or over and would like to participate, contact Alec Parrett and he will include you.

Thu2 Canterbury v North Foreland
Tue 7 Whit & Seasalter v Chestfield
Tue 7 Etchinghill v Broome Park
Tue21 Chestfield v Canterbury
Thu23 North Foreland v Etchinghill
Thu 30 North Foreland v Broome Park

Tue 5 Etchinghill v Canterbury
Tue 5 Whit & Seasalter v Broome Park
Thu 21 Chestfield v North Foreland
Fri 22 Canterbury v Whit & Seasalter

Tue2 Etchinghill v Chestfield
Thu 4 North Foreland v Canterbury
Tue 9 Broome Park v Etchinghill
Thu 18 Broome Park v North Foreland
Fri 19 Chestfield v Whit & Seasalter
Tue 23 Whit & Seasalter v Canterbury
Thu 25 Broome Park v Chestfield

Thu 2 Broome Park v Canterbury
Thu 9 North Foreland V Chestfield
Thu 23 Broome Park v Whit & Seasalter
Thu 23 Etchinghill v North Foreland
Mon 27 Etchinghill v Whit & Seasalter

Tue 4 Whit & Seasalter v North Foreland
Fri 7 Canterbury v Etchinghill
Thu 13 Chestfield v Broome Park
Fri 21 Canterbury v Broome Park

Thu3. Chestfield v Etchinghill
Thu 3 North Foreland v Whit &Seasalter
Thu 17 Canterbury v Chestfield
Tue 22 Whit & Seasalter v Etchinghill

Fundraising 100 Club

This fundraising venture costs £1 per month, with monthly prizes of £30, £20 and £10. There is a bonus double draw at Christmas each year. There are plenty of spare numbers so get buying!


1st £30.00 Vicky Quinny
2nd £20.00 Roger Backhouse
3rd £10.00 Richard Davis

What’s on for the next two months?


Saturday 1st 1300hrs Juniors Competition
Sunday 2nd am Turkey Trot second round
Tuesday 4th am Ladies Xmas Competition
Sunday 9th am Captain’s swindle
Tuesday 11th am Ladies Xmas Competition and AGM
Wednesday 12th am Midweekers Tudor Tearooms Trophy Medal
Saturday 15th am Annual General Meeting
Sunday 16th am Captain’s swindle
1330hrs captains Playing in
Tuesday 18th am Ladies Xmas Competition
Sunday 23rd am Turkey Trot final round
Tuesday 25th Ladies Xmas Competition
Friday 28th am Midweekers V.Green Shield Stableford
Sunday 30th am Captain’s swindle


Monday 1st pm Past Captains Dinner
Tuesday 2nd am Ladies Competition
Saturday 6th am Ladies Coffee Morning
1300hrs Junior’s Competition
Juniors Xmas Party
Sunday 7th am Captain’s swindle
Tuesday 9th am Ladies Pink Ball competition and Xmas Lunch
Wednesday 10th am Midweekers A Bensted December Cup Stableford
pm Midweekers Xmas Lunch
Sunday 14th am Captain’s swindle
Tuesday 16th am Ladies Competition
Thursday 18th am Old Salts Xmas Lunch
Friday 19th am Midweekers T Love’s December Trophy Stableford
Sunday 21st am Captains swindle
Tuesday 23rd am Ladies “Wot coffee”
Friday 26th 0830hrs Captain’s Brandy Stakes
Sunday 28th am Captain’s swindle

Ebb and Flow (letters section)
The Editor would appreciate your comments or suggestions of ways to improve the club, magazine, web site, social activities, or anything else that comes to mind! Get writing – it’s your club say what you want!
If you have any specific questions about the course please direct them to the Course Director Malcolm Kent or use the suggestion book.
Flotsam and Jetsam
Some random thought on life.

If an article is attractive, or useful, or inexpensive, they’ll stop making it tomorrow; if it’s all three, they stopped making it yesterday. 

Tell a man there are 300 billion stars in the universe and he’ll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint on it and he’ll have to touch it to be sure. 

If there is something you must do and you cannot do it, you cannot do anything else. 

How is it that our memory is good enough to retain the least triviality that happens to us, and yet not good enough to recollect how often we have told it to the same person?
The odds of going to the store for a loaf of bread and coming out with only a loaf of bread are three billion to one.
I tell you this, and I tell you plain:
What you have done, you will do again;
You will bite your tongue, careful or not,
Upon the already-bitten spot.

As soon as you sit down to a cup of hot coffee, your boss will ask you to do something, which will last until the coffee is cold.
A bargain is something you can’t use at a price you can’t resist.

Answers to last month’s competition
I’m afraid no one got the answers to this problem for one simple reason there was a mistake in the question! (my fault entirely no excuses I put it down to ineptitude)
So I will reset it with the question in it’s correct form, maybe this will give you all an extra clue?

1/ What is the next number in the sequence:- 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, ?

2/ What are the next two letters in this sequence:- A, E, F, L, M, N, O, P, ?, ?.

3/ What number is the ?
1 x 2 + 1 = 7
2 x 3 + 2 = 10
3 x 4 + 3 = 11
4 x 5 + 4 = ?
5 x 6 + 5 = 10
6 x 7 + 6 = 10
There are three answers required to get the £20 voucher from Steve good luck!

Another little tester just for fun, solve this riddle

In the forest’s shade, I turn and run,
Inside the course I follow to the sun
In eager tumbling down to the sea
Odd letters might reveal me.
I am a mighty flower bold and pure
To be sure, to be sure.

Any contributions of any type will be considered, puzzles, stories, history,
Anecdotes, your chance to get your stuff in print!

Recipes from the galley
Rogan Gosh (rich lamb with almonds)
4 tablespoons oil
4oz onions, peeled and finely chopped
5 small green cardamom pods
½ teaspoon ground turmeric
1 teaspoon Chilli powder
1 teaspoon ground cumin
1½ teaspoons paprika
1 teaspoon ground coriander
¼ pint plain unsweetened yoghurt
½ 8oz tin chopped tomatoes
1¼ lb. boned leg of lamb cut into 1” cubes
½oz fresh ginger root peeled
6-7 garlic cloves, peeled
¼ teaspoon grated nutmeg
1 blade of mace
4 cloves
1 tablespoon poppy seeds dry roasted
12 peppercorns
2oz almonds blanched
2 large cardamom pods
1 pinch of saffron
Chopped coriander leaves to garnish
To make the masala grind the ginger, garlic, mace, nutmeg, cloves, poppy seeds, peppercorns, almonds, large cardamoms and saffron with a little water to make a fine paste.
Heat the oil in a pan and gently fry the onion until light brown. Add the small green cardamoms and stir in the paste of spices. Gently fry for 2 minutes taking care not to burn the mixture. Add the turmeric, Chilli powder, cumin, paprika, coriander and fry for a further 1-2 minutes. Stir in the yoghurt and the chopped tomatoes. Add the lamb and salt and stir well.
Cover and cook over a gentle heat for 40-50 minutes sprinkling with a little water if the mixture looks a little dry. Garnish with chopped coriander leaves.
Special fried rice
1 cup basmati rice, 1 tablespoon oil, 2 banana shallots, ½ teaspoon salt, 2 bay leaves, 3 cloves, 1 pinch saffron, ½ teaspoon black mustard seeds, 1 pint chicken stock.
Select a frying pan with a close fitting lid, heat the oil and fry the mustard seeds for a few seconds until they pop, finely chop the shallots, and fry in the oil until translucent, add the rice and stir until coated, add the salt bay leaves, cloves and chicken stock, bring to the boil then turn down low, fit the lid and cook for 10-12 minutes until the moisture has evaporated and the rice is fluffy.
Serve with Roganjosh, and Naan bread – enjoy!

If you have any unwanted clubs or equipment sell them through this Publication or the Web Site and donate 10% to the Captains Charity! Send the details to my e-mail robert.ireland@gmail.com , by post or place the details on the notice board marked for my attention.

Some from Eric Bean
Loco 10 degree
Topflite 10.5 degree

3 wood Ping
5 wood Wilson 21 degree
11 wood Dunlop
13 wood Fairway
21 degree Rescue club
Sand Wedge
Golf Bag
All or any the above open to offers
Contact Eric Bean 01227 740190

Donnay Golf shoes size 7 *NEW* £10
Donnay golf bag £10
Golf Bag £10
Stubart golf shoes size 7 £10
All the above contact Derrick Richardson 01227 361194

John Wegner is having a clear out see below

King Cobra offset 12 degree with head cover £45.00
Callaway Driver FT9 10 degree with head cover £30.00
Odessey 2 ball £25.00
Mitusushiba nc £15.00
Golden Bear centre shaft £10.00
Odessey Rossie 11 £ 5.00

Tel 01227 261009

Here are some items from Robbie George 792070
Full set 3-SW Mizuno MX23 irons, golf pride grips £90.00
Full size Mizuno Golf Bag £60.00
All items in good condition
FOR SALE. Please contact Linda Bawden or Beryl Wingrove in the Ladies Section.

Golf bag Golf bag Ladies 7 iron Ladies 9 iron
Ladies driver 3 wood 7 wood 9 wood
Sand iron wedge lob wedge 8,7,5 irons
Putter umbrella